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October 29, 2012

the following excerpt from a person’s notes seems timely…

…during the week long workshop (Home of the Heart) in Austria, at some point in time, the group went into an exchange with Kausthub on judging. Can’t remember how it all started, but a few key points stick out in my mind.

“what about the Catholic priests who abused young people”… even there, you can’t judge their acts. You don’t know their intentions. You were not there. We don’t even know it happened for sure.

Not sure if it was Sarah or Gill that asked “what about Kahlil Gibran? He supposedly was very violent and abusive to women”…It takes a very great evolved person to create the philosophical works he has created. We can’t judge the person just the acts. I am sure if we looked at the facts, it probably was not as it has been reported.

People in the group asked about a few more examples of know or reported stories of abuse and for each KD defended the person in question. He said all this looking down at the floor in front of him and finally ended the discussion saying that we can never judge the person, just the act.

The group continued to ask about what that meant, and he ended the session for a tea break.



From → Kausthub

  1. julia permalink

    A ten year old girl was abducted recently in Colorado and then found dead. The mother of the perpatrator phoned the police to report her son. Sometimes judgement is about standing up for justice.

  2. The whole “separate the teachings from the teacher” is a common response. I’ve heard it written about this whole issue – and others in the past – many times. And whilst there is some truth to the assertion that we should distinguish a teacher from the teachings, this line of argument is only ever used in relationship to the failures, or bad behaviour, of the teacher. When a teacher has erred, many will be quick to trot out the “we mustn’t confuse the teacher with the teachings” line of argument. But why do many of the same people – the teacher’s defendants – not make the same separation when it comes to the teacher’s good behaviour??? WHen a teacher behaves in certain ways, it can be seen as a proof of their wisdom, their advanced knowledge, their perceptiveness…

    I do think that the problem is tricky. Teachings are only useful if they can be truly embodied. Of course everyone fails at some point, I’m not talking about perfection. But blatantly not “walking the talk” is just an anathema. If the teachings can’t be embodied by the teacher – at least to some extent, they remain academic and dry as chemical formulae.

  3. julia permalink

    I think this is really interesting. That is children learn from their peers and role models. Taking that a stage further students also embody and also learn from their mentor. Do the current teachers therefore have the embodiment of his behaviour as a way of teaching…………

  4. Well yes – that’s a concern! I’m sure that students won’t mimic what they don’t know about; but there is a potential disdain for any yoga that does not come from “the source” that comes both from the leadership and – I worry – from those whom they teach…

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